Shingles without the rash?

Trying to describe to people I haven’t seen for years the health challenges I have so they can relate, I found myself using the word “neuralgia” and this set me off wondering what this typically relates to, what commonly causes it, in terms other people can grasp. This new lead-in (seeing things from other people’s perspective) prompted me to reexamine a very obvious cause, shingles, which I had considered before and yet repeatedly ruled out since – to my recollection  – I didn’t have chickenpox as a child. Search for “shingles” on the internet and you will be told that shingles only ever results from a reactivated chickenpox virus; in other words, no chickenpox, no shingles. Thus, guided by the thumb-rule of conventional medical science, I repeatedly IGNORED this whole area of exploration, even though it kept flagging up as a possible cause of my symptoms.

However, it was a no-brainer (given my recent quantum leap in understanding Epstein Barr via this route) to double check this with Anthony William on the Medical Medium’s website since he is starting to make available information that is at least one or two decades ahead of conventional medicine in ways that are having astonishing results. And there it was on his website:

Shingles is an illness that can produce fever, headaches, rashes, joint pain, muscle pain, neck pain, nerve pain, and other highly unpleasant symptoms. Typically, a shingles diagnosis is never made if no rash is present. In reality, however, the shingles virus is responsible for millions of people’s mystery symptoms, from unexplained rashes to neurological symptoms to migraines, and more.

Bingo! Reading on, I find symptoms and experiences where I can tick almost every box across a whole range of different expressions of the shingles virus (begging me to question whether I have more than one of these active at the same time). I was left astonished at the “fit” with my experiences of neuralgia and how they have shifted and evolved over a decade; it was the biggest single light-bulb moment I can remember!

skva4bc_bsg-olivier-miche.jpgThis neuralgia – the biggest and most persistent aspect of my health –  delivers severe tooth, ear, jaw and face pain; neck and head pain (including killer migraines); limbs, feet and hands that feel like they have deep glass shards sticking into them; fevers and burning fiery sensations to the whole of my body and agonising leg nerves or sciatica pains plus crawling itches and episodes of numbness. The rash aspect is seldom there for me…well, certainly nothing like the pustules of chickenpox – and yet I have had episodes of unexplainable red rashes on my thighs, severe patches of burn-like rash on my lower back, many episodes of  chest rash and, sometimes, whole-torso outbreaks that turn me into red-blotch woman (like a reaction to penicillin) for a few days at a time. I’ve also had odd blisters on one arm only, and on the head, something Anthony William talks about in the audio in his blog. And, yes, frozen-shoulder episodes – this one really got my attention as I never made the connection; though, in fact, my whole adventure into fibromyalgia started with an intense case of frozen-shoulder, which took months of physio and which still comes and goes for no apparent reason at times when my health feels triggered. Reading this article and then listening through the audio felt like one very giant piece of the jigsaw falling into place!

The good news – as ever, all of this can be tackled with diet…those blueberries I’m consuming every day now and a list that includes many of my food and supplement regulars. So if you have any kind of unexplained neuralgia, tricky menopausal symptoms (they simply shouldn’t be happening; they never used to happen to women…and Anthony William explains all), fibromyalgia or any other chronic mystery illness, I highly recommend this article with its attached audio. To me, its delivered huge relief and coherence to bring to an end years of struggle and denial, allowing me to shore up the recovery plan I am already following with more focus and determination than ever.


Shingles Virus –

(I also suggest Anthony William’s article and audio on Epstein Barr since they often coincide, as is my experience)

Follow-up post on Spinning the Light blog – “Intact

Here’s a recent post on this topic from the Medical Medium on Facebook.

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7 thoughts on “Shingles without the rash?

  1. I had shingles in December Helen – it began with severe pains in my neck and shoulders, spread to my face and ear which became swollen and it was only after a couple of weeks that a rash appeared. I did have chickenpox as a child – maybe it just presents in a different way if you haven’t had the virus before.


    1. Hope you have fully recovered from it Andrea…as you know, it is in the same family as Epstein Barr and these viruses have an interesting history relative to women and family history (Anthony William talks about this in depth in his EBV audio, very very interesting!) A significant thread that has now surfaced for me is that my grandma…who came from your very town…had shingles very badly indeed, I don’t get the impression it was a brief thing for her and it frightened my father hugely; he became very fearful around the subject of health relative to the issues his mother had. Seeing how we carry these threads and how they keep emerging…until we untied them through our conscious efforts…continues to fascinate me!

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    1. Thank you for feeding back and just to say the migraines I used to get were horrendous, just so unspeakably awful, and happened more and more often earlier last year ….but I haven’t had one for 6 months and the difference – for me – was the lions mane mushrooms I mention plus following the EPV diet and supplement guidance from the Medical Medium. I havent (ever) take any migraine medication as I dont see a doctor about any of my health issues.

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